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Poster: chris in long beach Date: Dec 1, 2011 2:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

Hi gang,

I've read, on occasion, about people ranking shows, and even having notes on shows.

How do you do this?

I'm asking because I have this honking huge box of music (E72), and don't know the best way to tackle it.

Yes, putting on a show and just listening is fun, but I'd like to dig a little deeper.

So, how do you do it? Do you use one show as the baseline and rate everything else in relation to it? Rate shows/songs on their own?

OH, and if you happen to have E72 notes, feel free to pass them along...I'd like to see how the pros do it :D

My email is hot and my username is cvdover0126. If you do email, please use a subject line like "Europe 72 Notes" so I know where it came from. I do have Word.

Don't have notes? No worries!!! Go ahead and post your comments about how you listen to shows.

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Poster: scotch_glass Date: Dec 1, 2011 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

Here's a great start as well as a good reference guide to at least a few very knowledgable people's opinions on the tour.

http://www.archive.org/post/304297/europe-72-notebook

Personally, when I went through this tour, I started by going in order from the beginning, spending a couple days with each show until I got a good idea about what I liked about each show (e.g. setlist order, outstanding versions of songs or sequences, etc.) After that, I went through and picked out my favorite version(s) of each song that was played on the tour, a repeatative process but enjoyable. After that I took a break from it for a while but recently, I've just sort of had the playlist for the tour on shuffle to see if I hear something I may not have picked up on before when removing each song from it's concert surroundings.

Have fun with however you decide to do it, there are some amazing moments in this tour.

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Poster: chris in long beach Date: Dec 1, 2011 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

Holy Doodle that E72 Notebook post could take me a year to get through :D

I may be trying to over-analyze it...I mean, I like the idea of giving each song a rating, but find it hard to do, because I like to have something to measure it against (I don't know if that makes sense).

It may be because of my listening habits...I generally find most songs "good" until something comes along and knocks me on my ass....like:

8/6/71 Bertha
8/6/74 Eyes of the World
2/23/74 Here Comes Sunshine

Maybe I should just listen and wait for those knockout moments :D

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Dec 2, 2011 7:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

Clif's E72 stuff is real good, at least from what I hear, his observations are spot on . I am on my second go through (Radio Lux. next ), and I find a way to keep it somewhat clear , is to break the tour up by nation , and look at those shows, as a group .

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Dec 1, 2011 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

I think the only way you can really rate something is by knowing it note for note. Which is why I always say I need a good 3-5 listens (depends on the song, el paso = not that many, long spacey other ones = probably double digit listenings) before I can judge how good I think version X is. I think we can tell when something is really good, especially after we get to know it. But comparing this with that can really only be done by getting to everything. One listen per version and then comparing is quite worthless. Though when it comes to Euro72 I think its a good idea as the sound is quite consistent and for the most part there ARE top versions, it just gets harder when speaking of TOOs and Dark stars. El paso, MAMU etc, i think you can get more definitive.

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Dec 3, 2011 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

Here, I think, are notes on most if not all of the Europe 72 shows. 1 show per page, with set list best reviews, notes, etc. Add your own at the top of each page and you're all set.



Attachment: Europe_72_shows.doc

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Dec 2, 2011 6:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

I would listen in order the first time and diverge when neccasary. I think it would be kinda cool to listen in order to see how the tour unfolded. Maybe take some notes the first time but stay away from analyzing it too much. If E72 is uncharted territory for you I would stay away from all the reviews etc.. come up with your own ideas and benchmarks. Check and compare that after. Sometimes shows that do it for you may not for other's. I know I have left Phish shows floored and had friends that hated the same show.

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Poster: Scrim Date: Dec 1, 2011 2:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ? for those of you that take notes on shows (esp for E72 folks!)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FIOD4USL

Here's a link to a document someone shared with me a while back. It's 400+ pages of personal reviews for shows from 1965-1979. This will give you a start on creating your own format.